Degenerative Arthritis
Dr. Cannell: I
am a 54 year old obese African American woman who started
my vitamin D journey by taking 2,000 IU/day.
Being obese, over 350 pounds, that amount of supplementation
didn't do much for me. I eventually increased my
supplementation to 300,000 IU/day
for 8 months. I have severe SAD;
vitamin D has helped my SAD and
gave me more strength and flexibility. When I saw my
doctor my 25[OH]D was
242 ng/ml,
with normal calcium. My doctor advised me to stop supplementing
with vitamin D or to cut my dose in half.
Over the years I developed degenerative
arthritis in my knees. Finally my knees deteriorated
to the point of bone rubbing on bone. Shortly thereafter,
my specialist advised knee replacements. That is when
I started injecting vitamin D directly into the area
around my knees. The pain went away almost immediately
but it took much longer for my mobility to come back.
Now I can walk more easily for long distances and without
pain.
I did cut my dose down but was still
taking about 100,000–150,000 IU of
vitamin D3/week and injecting my knees monthly with 300,000 IU.
My last 25[OH]D was 462 ng/ml,
again with normal calcium levels. That's when I
decided to stop taking the vitamin D3 unless I start
to feel under the weather. At the end of March last year
I weighed 347 pounds; in October I weighed 292 pounds.
As long as my calcium is normal, is it ok to
keep taking these amounts of vitamin D? Will injecting
into my knees hurt me? Fay
Washington, DC
No, it is not ok to take that
amount of vitamin D—and injecting it into your knees
is a first for me! The first sign of vitamin D toxicity
is hypercalcuria (excess calcium in the urine), not hypercalcemia (excess
calcium in the blood). As vitamin D must be transported
in the blood to be hydroxylated by the liver, you should
get the same effect for your knees by injecting it in your
elbows and I don't recommend either. The amount of
vitamin D you are taking and your 25(OH)D levels indicate
you will calcify your internal organs, starting with your
kidneys.
I advise to lower your 25(OH)D down to less than 100 ng/ml by
immediately stopping all vitamin D and staying out of the
sun. I'm glad you have lost so much weight and there
is reason to think vitamin
D will induce weight loss. However, one does not need
the doses you are using to induce weight loss. Fay, what
you are doing is experimenting with vitamin D as a pharmaceutical
agent, not a supplement. It may be that future studies
will show pharmaceutical doses of vitamin D (50,000 IU per
day) do have a treatment effect on certain diseases. To
date, no studies support what you are doing and other studies
indicate you are taking toxic doses of vitamin D. Again,
stop your vitamin D and stay out of the sun.
Sunshine and Pericarditis
Dr. Cannell: I
have pericarditis and
retired about 3 months ago. Once I started getting out
and sunbathing in my bathing suit my symptoms disappeared! Thank
you very much. When I went to my doctor, he was amazed
at my improvement but refused to believe sunshine had
anything to do with it. He said he had never heard of
sunshine curing pericarditis! Jeanne
San Diego, CA
No, like your doctor I have never heard of it either,
but unlike your doctor I believe it is possible the sunlight
cured your pericarditis. The majority of cases of pericarditis
are infectious with viruses the most common agent. Sunlight
will trigger formation of antimicrobial peptides, which
are potent and broad spectrum antibiotics. Anyone who takes
more than 2,000 IU per
day knows that lower respiratory infections are less common
and by sunbathing in your bathing suit your were getting
about 10,000 IU per
day.
Vitamin D - Helpful for Heartbeat?
Dr. Cannell: For
as long as I can remember I have been subject to missed
heart systolic beats. I went to a heart specialist about
it. He did ECG,
etc. and told me that he thought anxiety might be involved
as he had the same thing once. In any case my missed
systole happened anytime, anxiety or no anxiety. When
I got the message from you that vitamin D was involved
in heart action I started taking 2000 IU a
day. The missed systole stopped after about two months
and it is no longer with me. Was it the vitamin D? Dan
Seattle, WA
I don't know. If your vitamin D level was low enough
to affect you blood calcium the vitamin D would help that.
Without 25(OH)D levels, there is no way of knowing what
your level was or if your level is in the ideal range now.
I personally know of a patient with severe heart disease
who refused to go to the hospital. He was on standard medical
therapy plus 5,000 IU per
day. However, both his severe congestive heart failure
and his arrhythmia improved after he started taking 10,000 IU per
day.
A case report found sick sinus syndrome disappeared after
vitamin D. Other than the case report, I'm not aware
of any literature on the subject, one way or the other. Kessel
L. Sick sinus syndrome cured by ... vitamin D? Geriatrics.
1990 Aug;45(8):83–5.
Blood Test Only Way To Know
Dr. Cannell: Personally,
I am at 6000 IU per
day. After taking 4000 IU per
day for 2 months I was still deficient at 15. So based
on my weight (285 pounds) I bumped it up. And I haven't
had a cold or flu in over 2 years. No bronchitis either
and my bronchitis usually bothers me all winter. Thank
you. What can I do to help spread the word? Bill
Boston, MA
Your case highlights the need to get repeat blood tests.
I've been surprised at just how ineffective supplementation
can be, especially in obese patients. One has to supplement,
get 25(OH)D blood test, adjust supplementation, get another
level, etc. Many obese people will need 10,000 IU per
day to obtain a level of 50 ng/ml,
but getting a 25(OH)D is the only way to know how much
you need to take. And, levels will go higher in the summer
due to incidental sun exposure.
It is becoming widely known that adequate doses of vitamin
D helps prevent colds and flu. I'm proud of the fact
that the first time such a finding was ever published in
the world's literature, it was published by the Vitamin
D Council in our November 2005 newsletter.
As far a helping is concerned, the Vitamin D Council would
like to run a national advertising campaign. We did run
three ads in parts of California to the tune of $4,800.
You can see the three ads on our Vitamin
D Council YouTube Channel. We would like to run them
all around the country but that would cost more than $200,000.00.
We need contributions before we can run anymore.
Vitamin D Overdose
Dr. Cannell: I
seem to be reacting to Vitamin D pills even at the 400 IU level
with dry eye and mouth. Please address overdose symptoms
for Vitamin D as any good advice column should do. Can
you also address what a person like me should do to absorb
Vitamin D supplements? Can a person get Vitamin
D from the tanning machines? I hope you take my
recommendations to heart. Your web site is valuable and
could be more helpful to all. Roberta
Fairfield, CT
The symptoms of vitamin D toxicity are weakness, nausea,
vomiting, pain in the joints, loss of appetite, and weight
loss. The patient may experience constipation alternating
with diarrhea, or have tingling sensations in the mouth.
The toxic dose of vitamin D depends on its frequency.
In infants, a single dose of 15 mg (600,000 IU)
or greater may be toxic, and has to exceed 0.5 mg (20,000 IU)
per day over a prolonged period to be toxic in infants.
In adults, a daily dose of 1.0–2.0 mg (40,000–80,000)
of vitamin D may be toxic when consumed for a prolonged
period. A single dose of about 50mg (2,000,000 IU)
or greater is probably toxic for adults. The immediate
effect of an overdose of vitamin D is abdominal cramps,
nausea, and vomiting, not dry mouth and eyes. Toxic doses
of vitamin D taken over a prolonged period of time result
in deposits of calcium crystals in the soft tissues of
the body that may damage the heart, lungs, and kidneys.
For people who have trouble with supplements,
I recommend sunbathing during the warmer months and sun
tanning parlors in the colder months. Yes, sun tanning
parlors make vitamin D, the most is made by the older type
beds. Another possibility is a Sperti
vitamin D lamp.
Dr. Cannell: I
am a pain management physician in Grand Rapids MI. and
I prescribe a lot of vitamin D. Typically I write for
50,000 IU as
a weekly tablet and dispense this to a lot of my elderly
patients with osteoporosis. Occasionally one of them
takes it daily because they cannot or do not read their
label on the bottle.
My most recent patient to do this is
a 75 year-old female weighing about 250 pounds.
She has had non-healing venous stasis ulcers in
bilateral lower extremities for over 5 years despite
the best efforts of the local wound care clinic. When
she received her prescription for vitamin D she proceeded
to take it daily until all 13 tabs were gone. When I
saw her at her next visit we caught her mistake, wrote
her for a new RX and
made sure she knew how to take it. However, since her
accidental overdose, the wounds have started healing! The
one on her left leg is completely healed and the right
one is closing rapidly. Do you think the vitamin D could
have had something to do with this? Dr.
Mark Grand Rapids, MI
I don't know but this is another example of the
use of pharmaceutical doses of vitamin D (this one by mistake).
Vitamin D upregulates antimicrobial peptides in the skin,
which promote healing. After World War One, solariums were
common treatment for non-healing war wounds. I think
you should measure 25(OH)D levels on all your patients.
If you do, I think you'll find that 50,000 IU per
week is giving your patients levels between 50–70 ng/ml,
which is fine.
Professional Athletes Need Vitamin D Too!
Dr. Cannell: After
reading your previous newsletter, I looked for and found
a definite correlation between the average UV radiation
in a state and the number of quality athletes the state
produces per million population. Hawaii is way in front
and the southern states way ahead of northern states.
I've also found a correlation of multiple super
bowl appearances/wins with team geographic UV radiation.
I've also found a correlation between the per capita
number of PGA golfers
(with most annual wins) and UV radiation
(not published yet). Thought you might find my website
of interest: Sunshine
and Peak Performance. Tonis Greensboro, NC
Good work. And once again, the first reference in the
world's literature that vitamin D will help athletes
was published by the Vitamin D Council in our March 2007 newsletter.
Can you imagine what will happen in professional sports
when athletes realize that vitamin D improves their speed,
strength, timing, and quickness?
Sunlight Needed For Malabsorption
Dr. Cannell: I
am not able to raise my 25(OH)D levels past 38 nM/L and
I am on 8,000 IU D3
a day now! (trying for 2 years) I have gut issues.
So, I am thinking that maybe Calderol or Dedrogyl might
be appropriate. Can you lead me to links on that aspect? I
have fibromyalgia and osteoporosis. I would like to talk
about this with my doctor. Mary Quebec,
Canada
You didn't give your weight so I don't know
if you're not absorbing it or it is depositing itself
in fat tissues. I suspect you are not absorbing it. The
two prescription items you mentioned, Calderol and Dedrogyl,
are both 25(OH)D. Although they are effective, there is
no reason to use them unless your liver is not hydroxylating
vitamin D. I suspect that your level would be fine if you
started using a sun tan parlor twice a week. Or, you could
go to 10,000–15,000 IU per
day. However, at that dose, you should get your 25(OH)D
level checked every four months. For malabsorption syndromes,
a sun tanning parlor once or twice a week is ideal or a
home vitamin D lamp like Sperti.
Vitamin D and COPD
Dr. Cannell: Thank
you! I have been reading quite a bit on Vitamin
D deficiency on your website. Very, very interesting! Thank
you too, for the great work you're doing in getting
the word out! I'll be spending a lot more
time on the shores of Lake Mich. again this summer! I'm
also supplementing with D this winter. About 5 years
ago I was diagnosed with COPD,
I had a respiratory incident last fall and was hospitalized
and after that I started taking 5000 IU per
day. I want you to know that I ran up the steps from
the mail box this morning and yesterday morning. I haven't
done that in years. I am a 55 year old female who smoked
for almost 30 years. Very anecdotal but it's happening.
I can breathe deeper too. I don't know how I can
thank you. Debbie South Bend, IN
COPD appears
to respond to vitamin D in two ways. It improves pulmonary
function through an unknown mechanism and it prevents lower
respiratory infections that usually exacerbate underlying
lung disease. As far as helping, we need donations in order
to run a national TV advertising
campaign.
Arthritis and Prostate Cancer
Dr. Cannell: I
have been taking 10,000 IU vitamin
D per day for over three years and my arthritis and prostate
cancer are gone (at least my PSA returned
to normal) and I am paddling my canoe and starting to
run again and feel much stronger now. I had my 80 birthday
this July. Thank you for your website and newsletter.
I think I'd literally be dead without it. Frank
Waterbury, CT
You're welcome. While there are no interventional
trials using vitamin D in arthritis, cross sectional and
longitudinal epidemiological studies suggest it would have
a treatment effect. Professor Reinhold Vieth, in an open
trial, discovered that 2,000 IU of
vitamin D per day slowed the rate of growth of PSA.
Other men with prostate cancer have written to me that
their PSA returned
to normal with higher doses of vitamin D although it takes
up to a year.
Increased Body Fat Means More 'D' Needed
Dr. Cannell: I'm
a physician and many of my patients have difficulty getting
a normal 25(OH)D, even with 4,000 Units per day over
4 months. Did you read anything about resistance to vitamins
D supplementation? Thank you for all your work.
A bit of good news: in France the labs have put
up the normal level of blood vitamins D from 20 ng/ml to
30 ng/ml. Doctor
Philippe Paris, France
The resistance is probably due to the relatively low dose
and patient's body fat. Many larger adults need 5,000–10,000 IU per
day to get adequate levels. I'm glad they have increased
the lower limit in France. However, it should be 40 and
not 30. Remember Bruce
Hollis, in a crucial paper, showed that the kinetics
of vitamin D's metabolism is not normalized until
levels are above 40 and often 50. His discovery is compelling
evidence that levels of 40–50 represent the lower
limit of the ideal human range. Hollis
BW, Wagner CL, Drezner MK, Binkley NC. Circulating
vitamin D3 and 25-hydroxyvitamin D in humans: An
important tool to define adequate nutritional vitamin D
status. J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2007 Mar;103(3–5):631–4.
Autism
Dr. Cannell: I
am a family physician in Edmonton, Alberta Canada I was
fascinated by the information regarding plausible causation
of autism and vitamin D and would love to have more information
on this. Over the past two years testing and then repleting
patients with vitamin D has revolutionized my practice
with so many conditions improving. I have been absolutely
astonished at how many different diseases respond. Dr.
Gerry Edmonton, Canada
You are not alone. One of the Kaiser hospitals in California
is now drawing 25(OH)D levels on all of their subscribers.
I know of at least 10 clinics doing the same and treating
with adequate doses of vitamin D. They all report that
a wide variety of diseases respond. The one exception is
advanced cancers and that is to be expected as poorly differentiated
cancers lose the ability to activate vitamin D and lose
the vitamin D receptor. However, if I had an advanced cancer,
I'd still take 20,000 IU per
day.
As far as autism goes, I have been unable to interest
any autism researchers, even those drawing routine blood
of the children, and even at my alma mater, UNC School
of Medicine. I continue to believe that gestational and/or
early childhood vitamin D deficiency is a major cause of
autism. My paper is being distributed this month although
I doubt any researchers will act on it. Cannell
JJ. Autism and vitamin D. Med Hypotheses.
2008;70(4):750–9.
Cholecalciferol is Cholecalciferol
Dr. Cannell: I
understand Dr. Marshall conducted a study and found vitamin
D is bad for you. What kind of study did he do? Mary
Minneapolis, MN
I have been inundated with letters asking about Professor
Marshall's recent "discovery." Some have
written that to say they have stopped their vitamin D and
are going to avoid the sun in order to begin the "Marshall
protocol." The immediate cause of this angst is two
publications, a press article in Science Daily about Professor
Marshall's "study" (which is no study but
simply an opinion) in BioEssays. Dr. Trevor Marshall has
two degrees, both in electrical engineering. Before I begin,
I want to again remind you that I am a psychiatrist who
works at a state mental hospital. In my duty to full disclosure,
I must say that I have known a lot of psychiatrists in
my life and a few electrical engineers. If I knew nothing
else of a disagreement between two people but their professions,
I would believe the electrical engineer, not the psychiatrist.
In reading his two articles, Dr. Marshall's main
hypotheses are simple:
- Vitamin D from sunlight is different than vitamin D
from supplements.
- Vitamin D is immunosuppressive and the low blood levels
of vitamin D found in many chronic diseases are the result
of the disease and not the cause.
- Taking vitamin D will harm you, that is, vitamin D
will make many diseases worse, not better.
If you read his blog, you discover that the essence of
the Marshall protocol is: "An angiotensin II
receptor blocker medication, Benicar, is taken, and sunlight,
bright lights and foods and supplements with vitamin D
are diligently avoided. This enables the body's immune
system, with the help of small doses of antibiotics, to
destroy the intracellular bacteria. It can take approximately
one to three years to destroy all the bacteria." That
is, Dr. Marshall has his "patients" become very
vitamin D deficient.
Again, Dr. Marshall conducted no experiment and published
no study. He wrote an essay. He presented no evidence for
his first hypothesis (sunlight's vitamin D is different
than supplements). From all that we know, cholecalciferol
is cholecalciferol, regardless if it is made in the skin
or put in the mouth. His second hypothesis is certainly
possible and that is why all scientists who do association
studies warn readers that they don't know what is
causing what. Certainly, when low levels of vitamin D are
found in certain disease states, it is possible that the
low levels are the result, and not the cause, of the disease.
Take patients with severe dementia bedridden in a nursing
home. At least some of their low 25(OH)D levels are likely
the result of confinement and lack of outdoor activity.
However, did dementia cause the low vitamin D levels or
did low 25 (OH)D contribute to the dementia? One
way to look at that question is to look at early dementia,
before the patient is placed in a nursing home. On the
first day an older patient walks into a neurology clinic,
before being confined to a nursing home, what is the relationship
between vitamin D levels and dementia? The answer
is clear, the lower your 25(OH)D levels the worse your
cognition. Wilkins
CH, Sheline YI, Roe CM, Birge SJ, Morris JC. Vitamin
D deficiency is associated with low mood and worse cognitive
performance in older adults. Am J Geriatr Psychiatry.
2006 Dec;14(12):1032–40. Przybelski
RJ, Binkley NC. Is vitamin D important for preserving
cognition? A positive correlation of serum 25-hydroxyvitamin
D concentration with cognitive function. Arch
Biochem Biophys. 2007 Apr 15;460(2):202–5.
These studies suggest that the low 25(OH)D levels are
contributing to the dementia but do not prove it. Only
a randomized controlled trial will definitively answer
the question, a trial that has not been done. So you will
have to decide if vitamin D is good for your brain or not.
Dr. Marshall seems to be saying demented patients should
lower their 25(OH)D levels. Keep in mind, an entire chapter
in Feldman's textbook is devoted to the ill effects
low vitamin D levels have on brain function. Brachet
P, et al. Vitamin D, a neuroactive hormone: from
brain development to pathological disorders. In
Feldman D., Pike JW, Glorieux FH, eds. Vitamin D. San Diego: Elsevier,
2005.
It is true that in some diseases, high doses of vitamin
D may be harmful. For example, in the early part of last
century, the AMA specifically
excluded pulmonary TB from
the list of TB infections
that ultraviolet light helps. They did so because many
of the early pioneers of solariums reported that acutely
high doses of sunlight caused some patients with severe
pulmonary TB to
bleed to death. Thus, these pioneers developed very conservative
sun exposure regimes for pulmonary TB patients
in which small areas of the skin were progressively exposed
to longer and longer periods of sunlight. Using this method,
sunlight helped pulmonary TB,
often to the point of a cure. Furthermore, it is well known
that sunlight can cause high blood calcium in patients
with sarcoidosis. In fact, sarcoidosis is one of several
granulomatous diseases with vitamin D hypersensitivity
where the body loses its ability to regulate activated
vitamin D production, causing hypercalcemia. Cronin
CC, et al. Precipitation of hypercalcaemia
in sarcoidosis by foreign sun holidays: report of
four cases. Postgrad Med J. 1990 Apr;66(774):307–9.
Furthermore, although medical science is not yet convinced,
some common autoimmune diseases may have an infectious
etiology. I recently spoke at length with a rheumatologist
who suffers from swollen and painful joints whenever he
sunbathes or takes high doses of vitamin D. As long as
he limits his vitamin D input his joints are better. To
the extent vitamin D upregulates naturally occurring antibiotics
of innate immunity, sunlight or vitamin D supplements may
cause the battlefield (the joints) to become hot spots.
I know of no evidence this is the case but it is certainly
possible.
However, if Dr. Marshall's principal hypothesis
is correct, that low vitamin D levels are the result of
disease, then he is saying that cancer causes low vitamin
D levels, not the other way around. The problem is that
Professor Joanne Lappe directly disproved that theory in
a randomized controlled trial when she found that baseline
vitamin D levels were strong and independent predictors
of who would get cancer in the future. The lower your levels,
the higher the risk. Furthermore, increasing baseline levels
from 31 to 38 ng/ml reduced
incident cancers by more than 60% over a four year
period. Therefore, advising patients to become vitamin
D deficient, as the Marshall protocol clearly does, will
cause some patients to die from cancer. Lappe
JM, Travers-Gustafson D, Davies KM, Recker RR, Heaney
RP. Vitamin D and calcium supplementation reduces
cancer risk: results of a randomized trial. Am
J Clin Nutr. 2007 Jun;85(6):1586–91.
I will not write again about Dr. Marshall's theories.
No one in the vitamin D field takes him seriously. Personally,
I admire anyone willing to swim against the tide and raise
alternative theories. I have done the same with influenza
and autism. However, I agree with the New York Times and
Jane Brody's conclusion: "In the end,
you will have to decide for yourself how much of this vital
nutrient to consume each and every day and how to obtain
it." Jane
Brody. An Oldie Vies for Nutrient of the Decade. New
York Times. 2008 Feb 19. I agree. You will have
to decide for yourself.
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